Q&A with Jews Who Don’t Realize They Are Anti-Israel

Normally, I write stories. This is a different kind of story – a real conversation I had online with Jews who don’t live in Israel but follow the situation closely, support Israeli causes, and even participate in Israeli groups.

Which is why their perspective was so upsetting. It is one thing when hateful people spout anti-Jewish, anti-Israeli propaganda. It is much more hurtful and damaging when it comes from Jews or people who supposedly support Israel. One would think people who follow Israel would know better, after all, the truth is not hard to find for those who wish to do so.

The question is, why would good people find it so easy to believe the lies?

The interaction disturbed me more than any online interaction, no matter how hateful, usually does. After much thought, I came to the conclusion that defeatism and the inculcation of blood libel has become so prevalent that many are not seeing them for what they are.

Which is why I thought it worthwhile to share their statements and my responses.


Statement: “It’s literally unbearable. This war has to end.”

My response:
Everyone wants the war to end. The difference is how. Some are willing to stop by surrendering—making the future much worse. Others will only accept victory.

Response: “There’s no such thing as victory. There are endless numbers of Arabs ready to fight, and at last count, only about 25% of the tunnels were destroyed.”

I was taken aback by this defeatist statement being presented so adamantly. As if there is no hope for a better future, as if we are doomed to live in terror and suffer from October 7th over and over, as our enemies promised.

My answer:
Of course, there is such a thing as victory! The Arabs know it—even if some Jews have forgotten.

Their victory is when they can torture, slaughter, and take hostages, and still control their territory. If they have hope of doing it again, they’ve won.

Our victory is when the place that tried to destroy Jews becomes Jewish. When Jewish homes, schools, businesses, synagogues, and especially playgrounds are built in the place that tried to erase our existence. When that happens, the world sees that attempting to kill us has consequences. That we meant it when we said NEVER AGAIN.

Is victory permanent? No. It must be maintained. But yes—victory is possible, and it’s very easy to recognize when it’s achieved. Like a joke, if you have to explain it, it’s no good. When it works, everyone understands.

Response: “There are very few things I think would be worse than Israel occupying Gaza with two million Arabs.”

My answer:
First, there aren’t two million Arabs in Gaza. Second, the goal is that, in the end, there will be close to none. Also, Gaza belongs to Israel. You can’t occupy your own home.

Response: “It sounds like more and more are calling for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. ‘Never again’ is not just for us.”

My answer:
Please, no virtue signalling. No one said they all have to die. But they can’t be our neighbors anymore—not after what they did, and not after promising to do it again.

Isn’t it interesting how people who express concern over the “ethnic cleansing” of Gaza or “genocide in Gaza” were strangely silent when the new leader of Syria Ahmad Ashara slaughtered Alawites and tried to exterminate the Druze. Where were they when children in Yemen were starving in their civil war? When the Yazidis were being slaughtered? Or the Kurds? Or Africans in the Congo or Rwanda?
Actual ethnic cleansing and genocide don’t make the news or if they do, they don’t worry anyone too much. Those words are somehow only relevant when Jews defend themselves… so strange

Response: “The current strategy is to kill them—women, children, and those seeking aid. I’ve heard the stories coming out of Gaza, and it’s sickening. So far, no country is willing to take in 2 million people. Until that happens, do we keep losing soldiers and innocent lives?”

My answer:

Every element of this statement is wrong!

There is no “strategy of killing Gazans.” That’s blood libel, no different than the accusation that Jews killed Christian children to make Matzah for Passover “as a strategy”.

There is no strategy of killing “women and children and those seeking aid”! The opposite is true. We are so overly careful of the lives of the enemy that it has cost us the lives of way too many of our soldiers, our sons and daughters. No army on earth, in the history of humanity, has ever gone to the lengths that the IDF has. Accusing us of killing “women and children and those seeking aid” is utterly disconnected from the reality on the ground.

Your accusation hides multiple mistaken assumptions:

  1. The idea that women and children can’t be terrorists –
    In reality, there have been many female terrorists, including the suicide bomber who blew herself up in a restaurant in Haifa, killing entire families having lunch, and child terrorists who have stabbed and murdered grown-ups.
  2. The idea that it’s normal to feed the enemy during a war –
    Those seeking aid are seeking aid from us, from the IDF, a reality that is completely insane (how can you beat an enemy population while you are feeding them?!), but once that has begun why oh why in the world would you believe that we are killing people coming to us for aid? And as a strategy?! The idea that this accusation could be true is a product of deeply ingrained demonization of Israel, as if we are the wicked witch who lured Hansel and Gretel to the Gingerbread house, fattening them up so she could kill them and eat them.
  3. The idea that propaganda platforms tell the truth –
    I have heard the statement that you made re killing women, children and people seeking aid as a policy on Al Jazeera, the propaganda wing of the Muslim Brotherhood which is – Hamas and is funded by Qatar. Other prominent examples of propaganda platforms are BBC and the Jew haters’ favorite, Haaretz.
    Do you know who provides these “media” platforms with information? Hamas. What do you think happens to journalists in Gaza if they report anything Hamas doesn’t want them to say?

I would have thought that you knew better.

Israel kills terrorists. People who have killed and are planning to kill Jews. The POLICY is to defend Jewish lives.

Sometimes, innocent people are killed in wars, including women and children. Throughout this war, the IDF has gone to unprecedented lengths to move Gazans from fighting zones so that no innocent people would be hurt (despite there being real questions about who in Gaza is innocent: the children who hit and spit on dead bodies? The women who held hostages in their homes, fed their family and starved the hostages? The people who knew where the hostages were and said nothing?…).

Every Gazan who remained in fighting zones was someone who wanted to fight OR someone forced to stay so that they could serve as a human shield (which is a war crime), so that people like YOU would conclude that Israel is slaughtering women and children.

You say: “I’ve heard the stories coming out of Gaza and they are sickening.”

I wonder which stories you are referring to? The lies propagated by the Gazan Health Ministry ? (which is Hamas) By Al Jazeera? (which is Hamas), the Gazan participating in the Gazawood industry, faking travesties to pull at the heartstrings of bleeding heart liberals who don’t use critical thinking to tell the difference between the innocent and the guilty, action and consequences, lies and reality.

Or perhaps you mean the stories about the consequences of war, started by people who invade, rape, slaughter, and take hostages, and as a result lose their homes and have to live in tents and eat food from aid packages in bad weather?

You know which stories coming out of Gaza horrify me? Those of the liberated hostages who talk about being given one mouldy pita to share between four grown men. The beatings. The sexual abuse. The mental torture. What they did to Yarden Bibas. That sickens me.

All the suffering in Gaza is a result of the choices made by the people of Gaza. Theirs and ours. All they have to do is stop – but they don’t and won’t because they have a higher goal in mind – our extermination, and that is something we cannot allow.

It’s not kind, good, or moral to allow people who want to torture and slaughter your children to be next to your children. It’s not complicated. No one would agree to have genocidal neighbors, particularly those who have already proved their capabilities and have vowed to do the same the moment they get the chance to do so.

You say that “So far, no country is willing to take in 2 million people”

That is also wrong, in more than one way. First, it’s unclear exactly how many people are in Gaza, but it’s not 2 million; it’s much less. Secondly, it’s not true that no country is willing to take them in. Israel has helped some (as of now it seems like only a few thousand which is a very small amount) leave to countries willing to accept them. Many more Gazans have left by smuggling themselves out through Egypt but they need an enormous amount of money to do that and this has been a barrier for others who also want to leave.

Gazans are not being allowed to leave – unlike any other war-torn nation on earth, where bordering countries take in refugees (look what happened when Ukrainians wanted to leave).

Hating Israel is big business, and Gaza is key to painting Israel as the villain. Many, many countries, organizations, and powerful individuals don’t want that to change.

You ended your statement with the question: “Until that happens, do we keep losing soldiers and innocent lives?”

This, too, is a veiled demonisation. This statement insinuates that the deaths of soldiers or civilians are the fault of Israel, as if we can just stop the war, and the death will stop. That completely disregards the reality of terrorists shooting rockets at us, attacking us, vowing to kill ALL of us. As if we are throwing away precious lives for no reason. As if we don’t care about all the lives lost – the lives of our precious sons, fathers, friends, and daughters.

Jew haters across centuries have portrayed Jews as blood thirsty, heartless killers, “as a policy”. That blood libel is so prevalent that I’ve almost come to expect it from those who hate us, but those accusations, outright or as veiled insinuations from Jews? Or others who say they support Israel? That makes me feel sick.

I don’t understand how someone like you could say those things. If someone told you that your father or brother was killing innocent people as a policy, would you believe them? Or would you go ask your relative what was happening? It’s no different when it comes to Israel. The soldiers in Gaza are my son and his friends. My neighbors. Our relatives. You are accusing them (or at best, assuming that the absolute worst lies are true). Your words are aimed at our sons, not some amorphous, theoretical entity.

Why would you, who supposedly cares about Israel, supports Israel, choose to believe the lies when the truth is easy to find?

Has hating Israel become so normalized that people like you don’t even realize they are spouting anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, defeatist propaganda?


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4 thoughts on “Q&A with Jews Who Don’t Realize They Are Anti-Israel

  1. I think it’s so difficult for Westerners to get their heads around the mentality of Hamas and other terrorist organizations. That every dead Gazan is another point for them (mainly because of people like those you are trying to answer). That bombs are fired from within schools and hospitals, and weapons and terror tunnels are in homes of supposedly innocent families. They can’t believe that this could actually be true – somehow the Palestinian version makes more sense.

    I would have mentioned that victory includes the return of all the hostages.

    And I can think of something worse than Israel occupying Gaza with two million Arabs – Israel, the only Jewish country, being eliminated.

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    1. Yes, the elimination of Israel would be worse. Well said.
      Regarding the hostages – We all want all the hostages returned. That’s one of the few things there is absolute consensus about. At the same time, I think framing that as necessary for victory is part of the defeatism campaign – there is no assurance that it will be possible to retrieve all of them, particularly the dead and never in our history did we frame our ability to live in this way. Imagine Holocaust survivors saying that they could not continue unless their family members were all found and returned to them. There would be no State.

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      1. I understand your point. Still, I think the hostages must be included in our response to the world. Because they seem to have forgotten. Everyone is referring to the deal being negotiated in Qatar as a ceasefire . Only Israel refers to it as a hostage return.

        I would ask these people how they justify 50 hostages still in captivity after over a year and a half.

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  2. Thank you for telling it like it really is! I am a British Christian, and I stand with Israel! I remember being incredibly shocked and upset as the atrocities of October 7th were revealed on the news stations, yet there were no prayers for the victims or the nation of Israel the following morning at church – and that was before there was even any retaliation. To be honest, there have been occasions since then where someone has publically prayed for the people of Gaza but not made a single mention of Israel or the hostages. No prayers even for the Bibas family, after the bodies were finally returned. 😢 Contemplating the hatred and violence shown to those two small boys, who had never said a bad word or known how to hate anyone, showed the whole world the depth of evil that Hamas would stoop to. Yet many people have such hard hearts, they barely even noticed, and worse still, believed the lie that they were killed in an Israeli attack.
    I had a heated discussion with a non Christian friend a while back… I pointed out what the allies (GB/USA) did to Dresden towards the end of WW2. No strategic advantage, just sudden destruction and death to at least 25,000 people, whose only crime was to be German. I read that many of them suffocated before they were burned, as the oxygen was sucked out of the air by the firestorm. The weaker people just could not escape fast enough. Was this labelled genocide or a war crime?? No, but perhaps the latter was true! Why was it “acceptable”? Because we were a nation at war! Just as Israel is a nation at war. And a war they didn’t ask for or start, yet have fought with incredible restraint! I have never known any other army at war issue warnings to people to clear the area about to be under assault, or provide food to their enemies, as you rightly pointed out. In the world’s eyes, Israel can never have the moral high ground! You are right about the complicity of many Gazans too, sadly.
    When I look at a map of the Middle East, I see a tiny sliver of green, surrounded by endless miles of brown desert in all directions. It sums up the Jewish people… they cherish LIFE! Those who wish to destroy them worship death, quite literally. As a Christian, I also cherish life. So, God bless Israel and His chosen people, the Jews, wherever in the world they may live. ❤️

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